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Hello everybody. This is Dr. Kevin Conners again for another holistic health hour. Answering your question that you send in. And, so please, if you have any questions, address those and get those in. If we can’t get to them today, we’ll get them next week on our holistic health hour. Just a plug, look at our YouTube channel too Conners Clinic, C-O-N-N-E-R-S clinic YouTube channel. Also, you can find our YouTube channel, Facebook page, all that, on our website. ConnersClinic.com. Check those out. We have hundreds, I don’t know, maybe four or 500 videos on different subjects that may be helpful in something that you’re looking at. So we had some questions come in on thyroid and cancer. I want to address those first because I think there’s some misunderstanding with that, maybe your naturopath or functional doctor or your medical doctor isn’t fully understanding when it comes to cancer and autoimmune thyroid, especially.

So your thyroid gland, first of all, does your thyroid gland, having a low thyroid hypothyroidism, play to a cause of cancer? The answer, my belief, probably not, not really at all. Is having low thyroid during when a person has cancer, let’s say it’s not a thyroid cancer, but a person has hypothyroidism, does that affect their healing? The thyroid isn’t particularly connected to a production of immune cells. So in that sense, it doesn’t directly affect your healing or reduce your healing if you have low thyroid, when you’re trying to deal with fighting off a cancer. But it’s certainly you get a cause fatigue. It could cause constipation issues and other problems that can indirectly be a big issue with cancer. So you would want to make sure you’re taking your thyroid medication.

If you’re a medication for a hypothyroid at all, or your supplementation, while you’re dealing with cancer, you want to make sure you keep that up. But one question I want to address, because I see this often, people that have Hashimoto’s. So understand, there’s primary hypothyroidism, meaning a person has decreased thyroid production, but doesn’t have any thyroid antibodies production. There’s a difference. So primary hypothyroidism is typically treated with medication, which supplements the thyroid, horrible in itself. So it’s typically a T4 or a T3 or a combination of that medication. So your thyroid releases, T4 and T3, mainly T4, and then T4 is converted to T3, which is the active high thyroid hormone in the liver and in the gut. So primary hypothyroidism, a person should continue on their medication, and should continue to get that monitored because, if they’re doing cancer therapy, or if they’re doing chemotherapy or immunotherapy, it could throw off your thyroid hormone and you should make sure that you’re getting that monitored. Side note on that is, when you’re getting your thyroid tests done, many doctors will only do TSH or do TSH, T4 and T3. You really want to go to an expanded profile and get free T4, free T3, reverse T3, because reverse T3 is an element of the thyroid that is often neglected. So reverse T3 is T4 that gets converted to this inactive, it never can be active form of T3 called reverse T3. So you could have normal T4, but high reverse T3. That means that’s an issue with the gut and liver that you’ll want to address, and that could be causing your low thyroid symptoms. So make sure you’re getting T4, T3, free T4, free T3, reverse T3, also TSH. That’s never usually skipped, but also your thyroid antibodies tested. When people get their thyroid antibodies tested and they’re elevated, that’s a sign that they have what’s called Hashimoto’s. They have an autoimmune attack on the thyroid gland. That could happen. Does that tie into the cancer in anyway? No not really. However, people that that are treating themselves with natural approaches for cancer are always using immune stimulants. I mean, that’s what you’re going to do from a nutraceutical approach to treat cancer. You’re going to be using immune stimulants. So mushrooms and vitamin C and echinacea and all these immune herbs that a person would use to treat cancer. There are immune stimulants. Now they are going to have an effect on your thyroid gland, because if you have Hashimoto’s meaning that you’re already producing antibodies to your thyroid gland, and you’re taking a bunch of immune stimulants, you’re going to have more of an attack on of your thyroid gland because, when you’re stimulating your immune system, you’re going to kill that which you have antibodies against first.

And if you have thyroid antibodies, you’re going to have more damage to your thyroid gland. Well, that’s a bad thing. Well, yeah, that’s not a good thing, but killing the cancer is more important than your thyroid gland right now. So you do want to get your thyroid gland checked, but I’ve had patients come in where they were concerned because their thyroid antibodies went through the roof. It was at 150, which is high, then it went up to 1300 during their cancer treatment. Well, yes, it will go high if you’re taking a bunch of immune stimulants, which you have to do to help your body kill the cancer, because you’re trying to stimulate T-cell, stimulate macrophages, stimulate your lymphocyte production so that you could help kill the cancer. Well, then you’re going to do more damage to the thyroid. So that is just a given, but you don’t increase your supplementation or increase your thyroid medication based upon the level of your antibodies, you increase or decrease. You balance the thyroid medication based upon your level of free T3 and free T4. Not TSH, not reverse T3, that gives us an indication of gut and liver health, but we balance your thyroid medication and your doctor should be balancing your thyroid medication. If your T3 is normal, your T4 is normal, but your thyroid antibody is excessively high, that doesn’t mean you should increase your medication. That means, okay, what is stimulating this thyroid antibody spike? Well, hello, you’re taking a whole bunch of immune stimulants. So if you have antibodies to anything. So this has to do with any autoimmune disease, not just thyroid, but if you have any autoimmune disease and you’re taking a bunch of immune stimulants, you’re going to spike antibodies. That’s just the nature of the beast when you’re trying to kill cancer cancer trumps your autoimmune disease. So you might have to do some other natural approaches to call hat tissue. Now, if your thyroid T3 and T4 is within normal range and your antibodies are high, well, no harm, no foul there.

Yeah. You’re going to have some damage, but your thyroid is keeping up, so I wouldn’t worry about it. Now, if you have colitis, ulcerative colitis, dealing with that and cancer and you have excess bleeding, well, there’s some natural approaches you need to do to address that. So, that’s just a word on, if you’re using a natural approach to treat cancer, i.e. immune stimulation, you will quite possibly have a spike in antibodies if you have an autoimmune disease of any other kind. So just be aware of that. And that’s just something that we’re just going to have to deal with because dealing with the cancer and killing the cancer trumps the autoimmune response. So that’s just a word on that, because I think there’s some confusion that takes place with that.

Another question came in with heavy metal toxicity as a cause of cancer. Now I did write a blog on this just a few weeks ago. So, please go to ConnersClinic.com and look for heavy metal toxicity with cancer, because just some good information, I think, on how the mechanism of this functions. I’ll explain it briefly here. So heavy metal toxicity is an issue because there’s heavy metals in pesticides and herbicides. There’s heavy metals in all sorts of chemicals that we’re using that aren’t supposed to be consumed, but we get them into our system. They’re in our drinking water, they’re in our food industry and we’re exposed to a greater degree of heavy metals and chemicals. That’s a whole other story. But heavy metal toxicity is an issue in a lot of things, heavy metal toxicity could cause damage to our gut, could cause damage to our brain for sure. It could cause damage to a lot of things.

But as far as being a particular player in cancer, the mechanism has it really been known until just more recently, there’s been some hypotheses that have come out. One of the hypotheses is that heavy metals, especially very small particalized heavy metals, nano heavy metals. Unfortunately, those are what our vaccines, nano sized aluminum. The vaccine industry has said, “well, you don’t have to worry about the heavy metals that are in vaccines because they’re just really small particles.” Well, it’s actually the smaller, the particle, the bigger the problem, because small nanoized heavy metals can be picked up more readily by our immune system. So we have T-cells that we’ve talked about. We have lymphocytes that we’ve talked about. One immune cell that we talk about a lot are macrophages, and you’ve probably seen in biology class macrophages attacking a bacteria or an amoeba.

And they literally engulf it and surround it and gobble it up and digest this bad guy. So pathogens attract macrophages; macrophages come to the site, attack that pathogen and absorb it. That’s called phagocytosis. You remember that from high school biology class. The problem with small particle chemicals, like nano aluminum, is that macrophages try to engulf it as well to try to get it out of the body. Well, macrophages and your immune system, don’t escort things to the gut to drop it in the gut so that you deposited it into the toilet. The immune system tries to kill things. It only kills things. It doesn’t help you detox. So it detoxes pathogens, living organisms, but what does it do with heavy metals and such? Well, typically larger heavy metals, larger chemicals. It leaves them alone. They will circulate through your bloodstream, go through your liver pathways so then hopefully get dumped into your small intestine and get up to the toilet.

However, the small particle aluminum, like you would get in a vaccine unfortunately, could get engulfed by macrophages, and then are they going to get phagocytized? Are they going to get digested? No, their metals. They’re not going to get digested. They’re basically piggybacking inside a macrophage. So this macrophage is circulating through your body with these small little heavy metal pieces in it. Can that affect the way a macrophage functions and could that negatively affect the ability of a macrophage to kill other pathogens? Quite possibly, but the story gets worse. How do macrophages go to a site? So if I have a damaged injury, let’s say I get a head trauma. So if I get a head trauma, I’m sledding down a hill in wintery Minnesota, and I banged my head against a stump going down the hill and I’m fine. No major concussion or anything like that, i just got to sore bump on my head. But what happens is my body will give off those cells that were injured, in any injured site will give off these chemicals called cytokines. Cytokines are signaling molecules, are basically like a siren you could say. That they’re like, “we need help. We need help. We need help. We need help.” And it calls in my immune response. Why? Because I need an immune response at an injury to kill any pathogens that could have entered if there was a cut or something like that, where pathogens could have entered. We needed an immune response there. We needed a police siren calling an immune response there to help save that area and kill any pathogens. So these chemicals are released and it calls in T cells and macrophages.

So macrophages come to the area, but what if we have macrophages with a lot of heavy metals piggybacked inside of them? So those macrophages come to the area to try to kill any pathogens that are present, and it can spill out these nanoized aluminum particles into the area of damaged tissue that could then cause problems to that damaged tissue. So, as I said, it gets worse. You get aluminum that piggybacks macrophages and macrophages are called to damage tissue. So now macrophage is called to damage tissue with piggyback aluminum, could dump that aluminum to the damaged tissue. And that’s where the aluminum can affect that damaged tissue. That’s how it could cause a problem. Well then how does the aluminum cause a problem in the cell itself? Well, especially the smaller particled aluminum can attach to receptors on the cell membrane.

So you have these cells with thousands of membranes, with thousands of receptors that are very specific for certain specific purposes, then you have aluminum attaching to these receptors, blocking that purpose of that receptor. So let’s use breast cancer as an example. You’ve heard of estrogen positive and progesterone positive. Those are estrogen receptor positive, progesterone receptor positive breast cancer. What does that mean? That means typically we’re talking about bad estrogens attaching to those receptors not allowing those receptors to work. Well, those receptors are apoptotic receptors not to get too technical, but apoptosis is how a cell goes through normal programmed cell death. So if that receptor is blocked, that cell doesn’t go to normal programmed cell death, it doesn’t go through apoptosis and that cell could stay alive and continue to replicate, that’s called cancer.

So, ER positive PR positive cancers, are receptor positive cancers, meaning bad estrogens attached to those receptors. But now we’re finding that other things can attach to those receptors, not just bad estrogens, things like aluminum piggybacked on macrophages going to an injured cell. That’s why some people can get breast cancer after, Oh my goodness, I got hit with a broom at that spot three years ago, and now they have breast cancer in that spot. An injury or post injury cancer site. So what are the mechanisms of post injury cancer? Whether it’s brain cancer or breast cancer or something else, is heavy metals piggybacked on macrophages that went to that site during that injury now are attaching to receptors, causing a blockage of apoptosis taking place. And if those heavy metals go inside the cell, they can disrupt replication cycles and be a primary cause of cancer because they’re disrupted replication cycles, so that cell is going through rapid replication. So interesting stuff about heavy metals. So you think, wow, should every cancer patient do heavy metal detox? Well, certainly every cancer patient should address this and make sure that they have healthy detox pathways. That’s one of the reasons why we do a whole genetic profile to make sure that, even if you do get it out of the tissue, you could get it out over the body because it has to go through the liver and into the toilet. So you have to have healthy detox pathways. I would refer you to that article that I wrote on the blog, and I’d refer you to our seven phases of detox article on the blog too, because that helps you really understand our concept of a greater picture of how you detox something out of your body in the first place.

You have to be having bowel movements on a regular basis. You have to be hanging onto stuff in the colon, not reabsorbing it. That that’s a huge thing with estrogens that you have to be able to have healthy bio flow through your gallbladder, healthy gallbladder, you have to have healthy liver through phase one and phase two and phase 2.5 and 3 detoxification through your liver. And then you have to pull it out of the tissue. So you don’t want to be doing chelation, pulling it out of the tissues, unless you know that those other six phases of detoxification are open and healthy as well and you’re constantly working on that. It’s not something that, “Oh, I just did this detox for a week and now I’m good.” It’s if you’re not detoxing on an hourly basis, you’re going to die. So you’re constantly supporting detoxification pathways, and that’s a benefit of looking at your genetics with detox pathways because you could see, “wow, I really have a problem with my PON1 pathway or my cytochrome P450 pathway or whatever. And how can I support that?” Nutritionally, dietarily, other therapies and such. So, I wanted to address, that’s a lot of content there. I apologize, please go back to the blog and look at that because it’s fascinating stuff, gives us another picture of causes of cancer, and the things that a cancer person should be looking at and addressing and dealing with because it could really help the healing process and help your body kill the cancer. Especially, it’s just so interesting, you know, macrophages have got all these heavy metals piggybacking there, they’re going to be less effective at killing pathogens, but they’re also going to be less effective at killing cancer cells, and we don’t want to happen.

Okay. So we’re running out of time here. So sorry, it took a little longer that question, but that was important to me. Questions that you have, please submit those to us and we’ll get those out. And I actually addressed some questions that you had from the last one since we had a little space between our health hours here and blog posts. So look at our blog posts. I try to continue to give information on that as well and keep you up to date and any new research that we find with treating and helping people with cancer, ll sorts of different problems. All right. Thank you very much.