Dr. Michael Karlfeldt of The Karlfeldt Center talks with Dr. Kevin Conners about Integrative Oncology, and how he uses exciting modern technology to help patients with a cancer diagnosis at his Boise, Idaho clinic.
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Dr. Conners
Hello everybody, this is Dr. Kevin Conners. Welcome to another episode of Conners Clinic Live. Dr., you have a very unique practice. You see people that have cancer and you see people that have other health conditions. But you do things, as far as how you treat a disease, very differently than what we do. So I was really excited to talk to you today and get your perspective on other therapies that people can utilize that, I tell you, some of the therapies that we’re going to talk about that you do, very few people that are doing stuff like this. You are very unique. So tell me a little bit more about you.
Dr. Karlfeldt
Well, thank you so much, Dr. Conners. And yeah, I’m really excited that the therapies we offer, there aren’t that many in the United States at that do it. It is what I would consider kind of at the forefront of integrative oncology, along with a lot of the things that we’ve done for a while that we know are tried and true.
Myself, I’m a Naturopathic doctor. I’ve been in clinical practice for 35 years now since 1987, seeing hundreds of thousands of patient interactions since then. I’ve done a couple of TV shows, one that you can find right now on Tubi TV: True.Health: Body, Mind, Spirit with Dr. Karlfeldt.
I currently also do a couple of podcasts. One is Integrative Lyme Solutions with Dr. Karlfeldt, the other is Integrative Cancer Solutions with Dr. Karlfeldt. On these we talk to people that have gone through using integrative therapies to resolve these different issues, Cancer and Lyme, which which can be really, really difficult, obviously. And we run a larger integrative clinic where we combine them, both medical and also naturopathic and do IVs, we have hyperbaric, we do the photodynamic, we do a lot of detox strategies.
And so it’s fun, it’s powerful when you combine it all. And also I feel that you can kind of layer the therapies together to address things from all around because cancer is such a complex disease, so it is important that you look at it from all different angles.
Dr. Conners
Could we talk about some of them specifically? I think photodynamic therapy is something that our members ask about fairly frequently. So could you explain that to a person? Exactly what that is and how they would use it?
Dr. Karlfeldt
Yeah, absolutely. So Photodynamic is something that’s been around for a long time, but it’s only been used externally, meaning that if a person has a melanoma then you use a photosensitizing agent and I’ll talk a little bit more about that. But you apply that and it absorbs into the cancer cells and then you expose that tumor to light, to laser light. And that triggers oxidation within the cancer cells so that you kill the cancer cell.
And so the issue is that it has been limited to just external tumors. So what we’ve been working on is then utilizing this technology, and I’ve been able then to get enough saturation of photosensitizers in tumors that are inside the body and then also being able then to get laser delivery, light delivery, into the tumors that are also inside the bodies.
You know, let’s say that you’re dealing with lung or you’re dealing with pancreatic or liver or breast or whatever it may be. And so then we have a certain kind of photosensitzer that has been developed, a good friend of mine in Germany has developed this at the university that he is in, and it’s a Nanonized form of ICG.
And the beauty with that one is that it attracts infrared light, so it pulls infrared light into wherever it’s at, so we can introduce that intravenously and then also we can, if we have access to the tumor, we can then inject it around the tumor to create saturation within the tumor of this photosensitizer. But also when we introduce it intravenously, it will then actually travel, because the tumors have a certain type of vascularity.
Their blood vessels are very disorganized, they’re leaky. And that allows that actual saturation to take place within the tumor of the photosensitizer. And this specific one doesn’t flush out, it hangs out in the body for like 10-14 days. And it gives us a window of time that we can then treat the tumor, because we know that the tumor is getting a saturation, and we can then introduce an intravenous light to treat the cancer cells that are floating by and in the circulatory system, like the circulating tumor cells or cancer stem cells, so we can tag them and then treat them as they’re passing by, in addition to using a very specific type of laser system. Or we can even use little optic needles with the laser optic fiber inside so we can then target the tumor with these lasers.
Dr. Conners
So let’s say an example, like a breast cancer that might be several centimeters underneath the surface of the skin, you could do an injectable photosensitized agent, and then you, would you just laser the surface at that point? Or would you do the laser that would be basically injected as well? How would you do that?
Dr. Karlfeldt
Yes. So you can do both, you know, because then you have good access. You know, it’s different if you have something in the liver and you don’t want to stick a needle into the liver. But if you have like a breast or something that is easily accessible, or a sarcoma that is in the leg or that is easier to access, and then you can bring these needles that you have with the optic fiber and go through the skin barrier and then get close to the tumor and then laser that from different angles at the same time using these optic fibers.
And we can turn that laser up to the comfort of the patient, and you anesthetize the area. And then you bring the fiber optic cables in there to get a strong concentration of that light, of that laser light into that area. That has been one of the issues in the past, that we didn’t have the technology to be able to deliver strong enough laser light saturation because the skin barrier will stop a lot of penetration.
And using what has been used in the past has been mostly red, and red only goes so deep; infrared goes quite a bit deeper. And if we can then bypass the skin barrier as well with the optic needle using the infrared, we have then a deeper penetration to trigger that oxidative response.
Dr. Conners
And how many treatments, let’s say breast cancer in this example, how many treatments would that person go through, that 14 days?
Dr. Karlfeldt
So during the 14 days we usually want to do it at least about four times, so twice a week is what we tend to do with the optic needles and then we use an external as well and that is done every day. And we combine that also, we have a laser bed that’s really powerful that that delivers about 800 watts so it’s really potent. And then we combine that with hyperbaric oxygen therapy and then we also have another machine called the Hocatt.
You want oxygen in the tumor in order to be able to oxidize the cell. And so it is important then that we use things like hyperbaric to create a saturation of oxygen within the tumor so we can trigger that oxidation.
Dr. Conners
Okay. How would, we talked about that example of breast cancer. How about an example of a more internal tumor, like a colon cancer?
Dr. Karlfeldt
So if it’s a colorectal, then we have an easy access there. We have another type of laser, it’s kind of like a little kind of bulb delivery that you can then insert rectally so that we can deliver a strong concentration of light in that area. But if it is higher up, you know, let’s say it is in the transfers or in the iliosacral area, then we need to do it externally at that point.
But then it’s so close to the skin surface there that we are, with the infrared, we’re able to get a good delivery still.
Dr. Conners
Okay, well, that’s really encouraging. Pancreatic cancer, the same thing? You’re going to do an external approach to that.
Dr. Karlfeldt
Yes, exactly. The same thing, yeah. We don’t want to stick a needle into something we, you know, we can damage in any way. So yeah, first do no harm.
Dr. Conners
So we have people that are listening to this that might live in Florida or New York or something, would they schedule with you and fly out there? Would they plan on spending two or three weeks to do this particular therapy? You might choose to add other things that we might be able to talk about today too?
Dr. Karlfeldt
Yeah so usually what it looks like, you know a patient would call and we’ll do a 15 minute kind of free discovery call where we get a feeling for the patient, they get a feeling for me. And see if this is a good fit with what we’re doing, and if it is, then we scheduled a longer initial where I can then develop more of an extensive protocol.
And after that then we have the patient fly in and they typically stay here for about two weeks, sometimes a little bit longer, but typically it’s about two weeks. And they receive then the photodynamic therapy, along with other things like High Dose Vitamin C, Artesunate IV, Curcumin IV, Poly-MVA, DCA, Mistletoe. And then we also use another type of therapy, IV therapy, where we actually extract the patient’s platelets, and then we load them with the photosensitizing agents and mistletoe, and also we’ll use some Methylene Blue, which is another photosensitizer. And then we load their platelets and then we might do a microfiltration process which makes these platelets into kind of a nano delivery system which allows them to travel into any kind of location i the body through any kind of barrier.
And they will then have, and they’re drawn towards areas of inflammation, cancer obviously is an inflammatory condition, and so it will then be drawn to the tumor microenvironment and then offload whatever it is that we have kind of loaded into these platelets. Whether it’s a photosensitizer, mistletoe, artesunate, or curcumin or whatever it may be that we have.
Dr. Conners
What is that that you just described? What is that therapy called?
Dr. Karlfeldt
We call it platelet-derived nanoparticle delivery.
Dr. Conners
Okay. Wow. That’s fascinating. Fascinating information. Now everybody’s wondering what that microscope over your right shoulder is used for. So explain how you look at blood.
Dr. Karlfeldt
Yeah. So this, I love this little device here and this is how we can look at, you know, take a cancer patient, for instance, or I’ve had other patients where I look at the blood and say, well, we really should have somebody look, I’m concerned that there may be cancer that we’re dealing with.
So you take a drop of blood and you look at it under the slide, and look it under the microscope. You can then see the behavior and the quality of the red blood cells, white blood cells. You can see if there is fungus there, you can see parasites. You can see how healthy the membranes are of the red blood cells, how able it is to transport oxygen. You can also see liver patterns and kidney patterns, colon patterns. So it’s a lot of information that you can gain just by looking at a drop of blood from an individual.
And then you can also have another slide where you kind of do a drop again, I hit the slide several times as you have different drops and you can allow a drop then to dry, it’s called dry blood microscopy and so there you can then see the coagulatory patterns and the blood and see the tissue integrity, see if there’s a lot of inflammation. You can see if a person is very deficient in like Vitamin C. The first drop you see a Vitamin C ring. You can see also heart patterns if a person has a little bit of issues with the heart you can see that. You can see prostate, you can see colon, if there’s inflammation in the colon. I can see spine.
I mean, there’s a huge amount of different things that you can see based upon just the patterns of the blood. And then you can direct the type of care that an individual would need based upon what you see. I mean, how they’re digesting protein, if they’re anemic. It’s really, really fascinating, the amount of information.
Then you can follow up and you do an intervention, you do therapy, and you can then follow up and see, does it look better? Are we doing a good job or not a good job? And what do we need to change?
Dr. Conners
Objective data, the before and after. So now just so our listeners know that this is, some of these therapies you’re talking about, certainly live blood cell analysis, like your microscope, is not legal in a lot of states. It’s certainly not legal in Minnesota, and I don’t believe in Wisconsin. And a lot of states have outlawed it. It’s just the medical tyranny that we’re living under currently is not getting any better.
So you need to travel to people who have experience doing this. Could you give us a little plug on where you are again and your website, how people will find you? You know, we’ll have it up here, but I want people to know.
Dr. Karlfeldt
Yes, I’m in Boise, Idaho, in Meridian, Idaho, which is a suburb of Boise. And it is the capital of Idaho. It’s a beautiful state. Obviously, we have winters like you have, but yeah, you’ve got beautiful mountains. We have beautiful rivers. During the summers people can float the river. And so, yeah, it’s it’s a beautiful town.
Me originally, I’m from Sweden.
Dr. Conners
So there’s where your accent comes through.
Dr. Karlfeldt
Yeah, exactly. I initially moved and had my practice in California in Santa Monica for many, many years. And obviously I wanted to get away from big city. I mean, I love the beach, I loved all of that. But the freedom of being able to do what I do is more accessible here in Idaho than it would be in California.
Like you’re talking about the live blood cell analysis. I know in Washington it’s not legal and I don’t think it’s legal in California either, if I remember right. Boise and Idaho is a little bit more freedom-loving. So I’ve been there for 20 years. You can find me at TheKarlfeldtCenter.com
I have a huge amount of resources there. I used to have a radio show called Health Made Radio where I interviewed, I ran that for about three years. I interviewed a ton of people that are leaders, you know, like Dr. Paul Anderson or Nasha Winters or Neil Nathan. So a lot of different leaders in their field.
And I’m upset that I didn’t get a hold of you before I quit the show. I would have wanted to interview you on that as well. But we have the summit where people get to really hear how awesome you are and what you do. So, it’s a huge amount of resources that you find there.
I have a free eBook you can get there, it’s called 11 Things Your Cancer Program Needs to Address, you know, going through 11 things that are really important to look at so that you can then create a whole program to address what’s going on rather than just doing one thing and thinking that that’s enough.
So it’s all there on my website.
Dr. Conners
Well, I love what you do. The things that you’re talking about right now are things that you can’t find everywhere. And people think you have to go down to the Mexico clinics or something to get these things. And I’ll tell you, there’s a lot of people that are very skeptical about traveling across the border and staying there and what they’re actually going to get.
And the cost can be astronomical to go down there now. We’re going to get your information up on our membership site so people can have other options. And it’s just such a blessing. And I’m so glad that we were able to talk to you. Could we have you on again? And you can share more information and more stuff that you do?
Dr. Karlfeldt
Absolutely.
Dr. Conners
I know your time is valuable and precious to you, but we want to get people to know you more and make your time more valuable and more precious, too, I guess.
Dr. Karlfeldt
Well, I appreciate this opportunity a lot. And yeah, I appreciate everything that you’re doing. And we need to have these pillars that are dispersing good information, good foundational principles. In cancer therapy, I mean, yes, you can do all these different fancy things, but if you don’t have the foundational things, then you can’t get anywhere.
And it is important that we all keep communicating about the foundations. Good eating, good mindset, good exercise, good movement, and then bringing in detoxification and bringing in all these different factors that are key. And by setting those right and having that as a foundation, then you can take the next step to these more kind of fancy, I would say, more heroic type of treatment that we do here.
Dr. Conners
Yeah, that’s fantastic. Well, thank you so much. Dr. Michael Karlfeldt in Boise, Idaho. We are going to have your information up on our site and I know our listeners are going to be really pleased to hear all that you do. Just having that option in the U.S. is just fantastic.
Dr. Karlfeldt
Yeah, well, thank you. And I do want to do a shout-out also for the summit that we have and that I’ve interviewed you on, the Regenerative Medicine Summit that will begin to air on January 10th. It will be a fantastic summit. That will be a fantastic way for people to get the information as well.
So thank you so much for having me. I appreciate this.
Dr. Conners
All right. We’ll we’ll talk again very soon. Thank you so much.
Dr. Karlfeldt
That’d be great. Thanks so much.
Dr. Conners
Bye bye.
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